Cultivating Detractors Using Lies, Insults, and Paranoia
Derek Smart draws abuse to himself because of his megalomania, his quick flamer trigger, his penchant to lie, and his hyper-sensitivity to perceived criticism. This doesn't happen in only one or two places. Derek draws abuse to himself like flies to stink wherever he goes. The results are usually quite comical. This one even generates some audio visual comic relief. Here's a little interchange that started on EvilAvatar, HomeWorld2 is Canceled Thread, and went to email. DrCrypt gave me permission to publish his email. (It actually is a very funny thread. You may want to just read the whole thing yourself.) I want to make it clear that I had absolutely no contact with DrCrypt until after this thread had occurred. Contrary to Mr. Smart's weird ideas, I do NOT recruit detractors. I never have and never will. I consider the recruitment of new detractors to be Mr. Smart's job and only Mr. Smart's job. However, once they're recruited then I tell them absolutely everything they are to say and do in the Flame War Follies. :-)
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Derek Smart is "summoned" by a third party as joke (except he really shows up)#132 posted 8/20/2001 4:16:46 PM
man, the thread is dying down! I want to break some records, so
here goes...
Homeworld 2 has been canceled! relic is going out of
buisness, and alex garden is going to have to sell his igloo!
oh yeah,
and Derek Smart Sucks!
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After the above summons, Derek Smart makes his entrance into the HomeWorld2 is Canceled rumor mongering thread
#140 posted 8/20/2001 10:34:46 PM
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DrCrypt says
#149 posted 8/21/2001 9:15:50 AM*********************************************************************************
Derek has one of his famous fits where you can imagine that his monitor is covered in spittle when he's done. He insults everyone on EvilAvatar and all neighboring territories.
#153 posted 8/21/2001 11:30:16 AM*********************************************************************************
DrCrypt responds
#162 posted 8/21/2001 1:26:05 PMquote:
(somewhere in that tiny chestnut you call a brain)
quote:
...that chestnut is not notorious for working overtime...
quote:
that there chestnut must have undergone a self-induced crackup
quote:
You should take your own advice, chestnut
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Now Derek goes paranoid on us and we are getting closer to the pictures that Derek took of his phones.
#169 posted 8/21/2001 2:29:19 PM***********************************************************************************
Here's a bonus where Derek blows up at someone else.
#187 posted 8/21/2001 6:30:47 PM***********************************************************************************
I had to also include this great bonus where Mr. Smart is forced to admit his brilliance.
#195 posted 8/21/2001 7:29:10 PMLangy
flaming intellectually (you) and flaming like a
raving lunatic (me), is still flaming :-)
Anyway, am glad that you're not
very pissed. All in good fun. Life's too short.
As to the rest of the
post, lets not argue about whether yours is bigger than mine or not (I know mine
is. I swear!!! Ask her!!), I get your point.
And you don't need a Ph.D to
know how to write. :-)
...about the IQ thing, considering my achievements
and the fact that, I'm, well, brilliant, I'll just acknowledge that part as
humor and not take it too seriously. If you do, then you need some serious help.
Anytime you want to match your IQ against mine, there are lots of online sites
that would more then oblige. You'll be shocked, to say the least.
Edited Tuesday, August 21, 2001 7:32:12 PM
by Derek Smart.
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Now we finally get back on track with DrCrypt's post.
#210 posted 8/22/2001 11:25:56 AMquote:
UPDATE: The fact that some idiot from CNM Networks with the number 516-246-5266 and 561-961-4266 (the joys of call tracing) just called me to insult me on the phone, I can only say that I must have ruined your day or your friend's.
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DrCrypt then apparently also sent the following email to Mr. Smart.
From: "John Brownlee"
<pimpdaddyb@zombieworld.com>
Reply-To:
<pimpdaddyb@zombieworld.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:02:17
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Dear Derek,
In the future, I suggest you find another way of
trying to contradict me in our little flaming debacles than flinging wild
accusations about telephone harassment my way. I'm referring to
http://www.evilavatar.com/EA/News/M32970/, where you wrote, in response to
me:
"UPDATE: The fact that some idiot from CNM Networks with the number
516-246-5266 and 561-961-4266 (the joys of call tracing) just called me to
insult me on the phone, I can only say that I must have ruined your day or your
friend's. "
As I replied on the EA forums (which you are apparently
sulkily avoiding because you've been made to look foolish... good strategy.
Opening your mouth again will only make it worse), I think it is pretty clear
that only a lunatic, and not a particularly ingenious one at that, would try
something like this.
For one thing, those phone numbers are both
out of service. Furthermore, they are from two different states, New York and
Florida, but I live in Massachusetts.
Come on, what are we supposed to
believe here? That two phone calls from the exact same person were made to you,
but from two different states? Even you ought to realize that this is
impossible. But let's for a second pretend this is true, and that he somehow
made two telephone calls to you from completely different states. How is it that
now both telephone numbers are out of service? Did someone set up two telephone
lines in different states just to harass you, then within a span of mere hours
manage to cancel them? Don't even you find this a bit hard to
believe?
Given this information, the only thing I can conclude is that
you suffer from delusional paranoia or are just an irreprobate liar. The
sympathetic side of me wants to believe the former, but I'm going to assume that
you are, in fact, the latter.
Listen, you don't like me and I
certainly don't like you. That's fine. You are welcome to contradict me on the
forums by spraying your usual incoherent blithering of impotent threats and
insults at me. I will respond in my usual kind: by meticulously quoting you,
spinning your own lies around you like a web, and being consistently wittier and
more clever than you.
Still, I think it is in really bad form, even
for a mental defective, to come on to the forums and, armed with a very badly
made up lie that even a child could see through, try to accuse me of a crime in
order to debase me. It just makes you look worse, and I thought I should let you
know that, since you are already an unpopular enough guy among most
circles.
Cheers, and good luck on BCM.
J
PS: I'm copying Evil Avatar on this email, since you have a
history of adding racist threats into emails from people you don't like, and I
want someone else to recieve this for posterity's sake. Sorry, EA, if this is
unwanted in your mailbox.
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Now Mr. Smart posts the above private email and copies his email response to the forum thread.
#215 posted 8/22/2001 2:01:20 PMquote:
[editor: in the interest of saving
space I'll snip the email that Derek posted without permission since DrCrypt
gave me permission to include it above.]
quote:
Please do me a favor. FUCKOFF!!!
It was
just purely coincidental that, just during the time of our flame war,
I get
TWO back-to-back crank calls on my direct line. I NEVER get calls
like
that. EVER.
If the fucking shoe fits, wear it,
jackass.
I got the area code incorrect. They are both 561. Also, it
probably never
occured to you that it IS possible to make calls using the
Internet, temporary
phones etc. Also, the person (even IF it was you), can
easily disconnect the
service, seeing that I DID call my local phone
company and told the idiot that
I would report it.
And you don't
have to fucking believe me, - I DON'T CARE.
All I know is, yesterday was
the 08-21-01 and all I have to do is ask my telco
for a call log to my
business line for that day, and ALL calls made can be sent
to me. So, the
nonsense you posted, is just that, nonsense. Whether the number
was
disconnected or not, the telco will know who had it, how it was made
etc.
Once the person called the second time, and advised them that I was
going to
record the conversation (as I am legally allowed to do), they
stopped talking.
I never did record the first call, because it took me by
surprise. And the reason
I edited the post a SECOND time (if you noticed),
was to insert the SECOND phone
number. The person called a SECOND time
after I hung up the first time.
If you WANTED to do meaningful
sleuthing, you would find out what CNM Networks
is. Because thats the
identifier that showed up on my call trace (its still there)
along with the
numbers. In fact, I just checked it again, the FIRST call did NOT
have an
area code (246-5266). And the only time the call identifier (I use a
Sony
system) will NOT display an area code, is if the incoming number is a
local
call. My local area code is 954.
Now, fool, tell me this, HOW
is it possible for someone to call me from
these TWO numbers, both
identified from the SAME network (CNM Networks) if its
not some sort of
roaming, temporary phone card etc, huh? You think I'm stupid,
don't
you?
Now please get the fuck out of my inbox and do NOT send me any
more emails. Keep
your shit to the EA forums. Since I have NO interest in
conversing with you, you'll
be playing all by yourself.
I hope this
is clear.
ps: Now that I have an email address
(pimpdaddyb@zombieworld.com) and name/address
(John Brownlee) for you, all
you've done is just left yourself open to litigation, due
to your
insinuation that I EVER added racist text to incoming emails. Something I
told
you already, I NEVER DID. Period. Smart. Very smart. You're not very
bright, are you?
Now fuck off!!
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DrCrypt responds to Mr. Smart's threatening emails with this.
From: "John Brownlee"
<pimpdaddyb@zombieworld.com>
Reply-To:
<pimpdaddyb@zombieworld.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:27:29
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Sorry if this is redundant, Derek, but I had network problems
when I sent the first one, forcing me to recompose it.
>ps: Now that
I have an email address (pimpdaddyb@zombieworld.com)
and
>name/address
>(John Brownlee) for you, all you've done
is just left yourself open to
>litigation, due
>to your
insinuation that I EVER added racist text to incoming
emails.
>Something I told
>you already, I NEVER DID. Period.
Smart. Very smart. You're not very
>bright, are you?
Sigh.
Derek Derek.
If your attorney would like to get in touch with me, he's
more than welcome to. My home address is:
John Robert Brownlee
[editor: I've Censured out DrCrypt's full
address.]
I'm comfortable giving you this information since it
is pretty clear to me that this is your usual impotent threat. You seem to
have no idea of what the law is, but still like to threaten people with it.
Still, if you have some attorney you got from the back of a Crackerjack box
who is willing to take this case on, feel free to have him contact
me.
At that point, I will tell him one of two things:
1. If you
can sue me for saying unsubstantiated things about your forgery of racist
email (which I doubt he can, see number 2), I can likewise sue you for making
unsubstantiated claims about me using the phone system to make criminal
telephone calls to you.
2. I have far more evidence that you forged racist
emails than you do that I made those calls. In fact, you have no evidence,
where as I can easily reference witnesses and the werewolves.org website.
Touche. :)
So, in other words: Bring it on! Bring it on! This is just
your standard impotent temper tantrum, trying to cow your detractors. You
think this nonsense scares me? How many lawsuits have you threatened that have
never materialized, against how many people? Any judge would laugh you out of
court, possibly with a complimentary psychiatric evaluation for you to
boot.
Oh, and I don't know why you are gloating about getting my
email address. It is run by the Old Man Murray guys. It is completely
anonymous. And they think you are more foolish than I do. You really don't
think they are going to laugh both at you and your crackerjack attorney? Also,
they have a policy of never divulging the information of their users without a
court order - which you could never get.
As I've said, I told you where
your attorney can reach me. Keep pouting, Derek, and smashing your fists
impotently against the keyboard, then go to your mommy and cry into her shawl.
You're so darned cute. :)
J
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Derek posts the pictures of his phone and apparently emails these same links to DrCrypt.
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DrCrypt responds in email back to Derek
From: "John Brownlee"
<pimpdaddyb@zombieworld.com>
Reply-To:
<pimpdaddyb@zombieworld.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:31:05
-0400
And you think this proves... what, exactly?
That you
got the calls? Okay, maybe (although, without seeing the phone in person, you
could have merely entered them in your cell phone's address book and then
claimed that they were "traces"). It certainly doesn't prove I made
them.
Nice try, but like most of your life, I really think this is
irrelevant. :)
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On the forum DrCrypt responds
#217 posted 8/22/2001 2:30:42 PM*********************************************************************************************
Derek responds in the forum and posts a fourth picture. I guess because DrCrypt called the previous three pictures a cell phone picture.
220 posted 8/22/2001 3:06:40 PM*********************************************************************************************
The call0X.jpg files were noticed by people over in the comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.space-sim forum but we had no clue what they were about. It was actually very funny. There were also some funny posts made in the news group based on the fact that in the picture above, Derek is apparently wearing a shirt that says "Bugg Boy" on it. Also as you would expect to usually find Mr. Smart, he is scowling at the world.
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Finally, after I made a plea on comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.space-sim for copies of the call0X.jpg files so I could prepare this page, Derek Smart made a plea for sympathy and claimed that the Flame War Follies site is filled with lies and there was a conspiracy and that DrCrypt was under my control or something. So, I made my first post to EvilAvatar in over a year.
Bill Huffman posts to the EvilAvatar thread
#232 posted 8/25/2001 11:51:32 PMMr. Smart, I think your rants and threats are very funny, thank
you for the entertainment.
DrCrypt and I have never meet nor
communicated prior to just a couple days ago. Mr. Smart, YOU recruited DrCrypt
as a detractor, not I. Stop being such a paranoid chucklehead. Also it is you
that is into this Flame War Follies thing full time. For me it's just a silly
part time hobby.
I'm EXTREMELY careful to only post the truth on my
website (or perhaps I should say your website). I've offered many times for
you to write a rebuttal to anything on there that you would like to. I will
put it up on the website without any editing.
For example, you forged
racist email and I wrote a page presenting what I believe is proof beyond a
reasonable doubt to your guilt of this most heinous of netiquette violations.
I invite you again to rebut the proof. I will publish it on the site with no
editing and give it a prominent position and links. You keep saying you didn't
forge the racist email and that you're going to sue me for saying such a thing
but the statute of limitation has come and gone. How long do you think people
are going to believe that same old worn out story that you're going to sue? I
speak the plain old truth and you can't sue or at least wouldn't have a prayer
to ever win a suit. Just like when I pointed out that you are a PhD fraud, you
made the same impotent threats (and still do).
I tell you what Mr.
Smart, before I publish this latest story about crank calls to a cranky kook,
I'll let you read it first and add or create your own rebuttal to
it.
My basic idea for publishing this is that I want to demonstrate
that it is not me or DrCyrpt or any of the other detractors that have painted
this glow-in-the-dark bullseye on your rearend. It is simply you. Perhaps you
should check your own chair for wet paint rather than blaming
others?
Also, please stop lying about taking down the Flame War Follies
site. You have NEVER taken down that site. The only site you ever successfully
got taken down was the freebie angelfire site. http://home.san.rr.com/follies is
still up to counter this lie you keep repeating.
BTW, thanks again for
the laughs, DOCTOR.
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Here's the fitting epilog. Notice in the pictures that were posted by Derek that allegedly show the caller-id numbers, one picture has the area code and the other two don't show the area code. I did some research and after talking to about a dozen people everyone said (including someone that was a testing engineer for a phone company) that the area code is always displayed for caller-id calls. Even if you can imagine that Derek's phone is different, why is the area code sometimes there and other times not there? I believe that the most reasonable conclusion is that Derek fabricated the evidence. Lending more evidence to the theory of fabricated evidence is the fact that on one of the pictures that doesn't show an area code, Derek claims to know what the area code was and he even changed his own story on what the area code was. See Derek's posts copied above.