From: john@ursa.net (John Bear) Subject: Re: degree mill or not Date: 22 Apr 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: <7fm2er$crt$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> X-Trace: news7.ispnews.com 924794282 208.25.89.59 (Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:18:02 EDT) Organization: Bear Endeavors, Inc. NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:18:02 EDT Newsgroups: alt.education.distance In article <7fm2er$crt$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, Ralf <110364@my-dejanews.com> wrote: Dear Rolf Dr. Dowd's advice is excellent. There is a wonderful line in some Groucho Marx movie, in which he says, in effect, "I wouldn't want to be a member of a club that had standards low enough to accept people like me." Same with schools. There are some schools that operate legally under their state's laws that give doctorates based largely or entirely on experience, such as Ray Chasse's Summit and American Coastline universities in Louisiana. Such degrees would be of no value in the academic world, and, perhaps most importantly in your situation (if you are in the US on a green card) could cause real problems with the INS. A few years ago, a British man, working legally in Colorado, acquired a doctorate from the Sussex College of Technology (a British degree mill), and he not only lost his job, he was deported. You might want to check with one of the foreign credential evaluation services (World Education Services in NY is one; the others are all listed in Bears' Guide) to get a sense of how much credit your German studies are worth. John Bear http://www.degree.net ====================================== > I know it might be ridiculous. But I guess I am looking for a degree mill. > > Here is my story. > > I am from Germany. I am 35 years old. When I was 21 years old I decided to > attend school again, to become a lawyer. At first I made up for > "Fachhochschulreife" I guess its similar to High School in the United States. > This was full time. I was very busy because I had to earn the money I need, > giving piano lessons in addition. After that I attended 'Fachhochschule" > something like the college in the U.S. But then I met my wife. After a little > while the first child was on its way. I stopped the "Fachhochschule" and > started to work, as a business advisor. But I enrolled at "FernUniversity > Hagen", as I know the only University in Germany full accredited by the > German Government in distance learning. I studied economy and law. It was a > hard time. Working 8-14 hours a day and then spending 4-6 hours extra for > education. But I did it. I finished with the degree "Dipl. Volkswirt", and my > knowledge in law, I guess it would be enough for the first test in law in > Germany called (erste juristische Staatspruefung). > > Now I am here in the U.S. My job brought me here. And there is nothing I would > like more than finishing my adventure to earn a doctoral degree. It is what I > started for. But I have family (2 sons meanwhile) and lots of work (about 14 > hours a day). > > So, short of time, I thought about to "buy" a degree. At the other hand I > won't be a clown. > > Do anybody have suggestions, how to earn a degree, with less of time? Does any > of the schools out there have a program, where a person can earn credit for > having done a good job at a german school? > > I would really appreciate your help! > > Ralf > > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own